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Reason, Debate and a Story (Ritwik Ghatak, 1974)
« en: 14 Enero, 2007, 16:08:58 »
Título:Reason, Debate and a Story
Título V.O:Jukti, Takko Aar Gappo
Director:Ritwik Ghatak
Año/País:1974 / India
Duración:120 minutos
Género:Drama
Reparto:Shaonli Mitra, Ritaban Ghatak, Saugata Burman
Enlaces:Subs
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Reason, Debate and a Story (Ritwik Ghatak, 1974)
« Respuesta #1 en: 14 Enero, 2007, 16:09:16 »
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Sinopsis

Ritwik Ghatak’s final film (made two years before his untimely death) features Ghatak himself in the role of Nilkantha Bagchi (the name is deliberately chosen to draw parallels between Lord Shiva’s blue throat after having swallowed all the poisons-of-the-world during the churning of the ocean and the character in the film), an alcoholic intellectual nearing the end of his life who journeys forth through Bengal, deep into the fabric of his past life, loves, and friendships. It is a not-so-veiled self-portrait of the director himself.

With Nilkantha travel a Bengali woman refugee, a once-respected writer who is now a literary hack, an unemployed trade unionist, and a penniless teacher of Sanskrit. The encounters and adventures that transpire during the pilgrims’ painful progress express the director’s disillusionment with organized politics and the loss of his bedrock faith in even the everyday politics of experience.

About the director

It is one of life's greatest ironies that Ritwik Ghatak who is today something of a cult figure in Bengal was so little understood and appreciated during his lifetime. Today his films have won much critical acclaim but the fact remains that in their time they ran to mainly empty houses in Bengal. Ghatak's films project a unique sensibility. They are often brilliant, but almost always flawed.

Ghatak was born in Dhaka now in Bangladesh. The partition of Bengal, the division of a culture was something that haunted Ghatak forever. Ghatak joined the left-wing Indian People's Theatre Association (IPTA) where he worked for a few years as a playwright, actor and director. When IPTA split into factions, Ghatak turned to filmmaking.

By and large Ghatak's films revolve around two central themes: the experience of being uprooted from the idyllic rural milieu of East Bengal and the cultural trauma of the partition of 1947.

Ghatak's first film was Nagrik (1952) about a young man's search for a job and the erosion of his optimism and idealism as his family sinks into abject poverty and his love affair too turns sour. Ghatak then accepted a job with Filmistan Studio in Bombay but his 'different' ideas did not go down well there. He did however write the scripts of Musafir (1957) and Madhumati (1958) for Hrishikesh Mukherjee and Bimal Roy respectively, the latter becoming an all time evergreen hit.

Ghatak returned to Calcutta and made Ajantrik (1958) about a taxi driver in a small town in Bihar and his vehicle an old Chevrolet jalopy. An assortment of passengers gives the film a wider frame of reference and provided situations of drama, humour and irony.

But perhaps his best work was Meghe Dhaka Tara (1960),the first film in a trilogy examining the socio-economic implications of partition. The protagonist Nita (played by Supriya Chowdhury) is the breadwinner in a refugee family of five. Everyone exploits her and the strain proves too much. She succumbs to tuberculosis. In an unforgettable moment, as the dying Nita cries out "I want to live…", the camera pans across the mountains accentuating the indifference and eternity of nature even as the echo reverberates over the shot.

Ghatak followed it up with Komal Gandhar (1961) concerning two rival touring theatre companies in Bengal and Subarnarekha (1965). The last is a strangely disturbing film using melodrama and coincidence as a form rather than mechanical reality.

Ghatak also had a brief stint as Vice-Principal of the Film And Television Institute of India (Pune), a time he recalled as a happy experience. However his next film Titash Ekti Nadir Naam (1973) done for a young Bangladesh producer was not.

The film on the life and eventual disintegration of a fishing community on the Titash, was completed after many problems at the shooting stage including his collapse due to tuberculosis and was a commercial failure.

Ghatak made one more film before his death Jukti Takko Aar Gappo (1974) the most autobiographical and allegorical of his films. He himself played the main role of Nilkanta an alcoholic intellectual and the film is remembered for his stunning use of the wide-angle lens to most potent effect.

Unfortunately for Ghatak his films were largely unsuccessful, many remained unreleased for years and he abandoned almost as many projects as he completed. Ultimately the intensity of his passion, which gave his films their power and emotion, took their toll on him, as did tuberculosis and alcoholism. However he has left behind a limited but rich body of work that no serious scholar of Indian Cinema can ignore.

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Reason, Debate and a Story (Ritwik Ghatak, 1974)
« Respuesta #2 en: 14 Enero, 2007, 16:44:47 »
¡¡Otra peli de Ghatak!!

Increible, muchas gracias kimkiduk  :)
Si venís a buscarme,
venid, pues, lenta y suavemente
para que no se raye
la porcelana de mi soledad.

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Reason, Debate and a Story (Ritwik Ghatak, 1974)
« Respuesta #3 en: 14 Enero, 2007, 17:20:14 »
No la he visto. La bajo ya mismo. Muchas gracias, kimkiduk!!  ;)
En un espíritu libre de pensamientos, ni siquiera el tigre puede clavar sus garras.


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Reason, Debate and a Story (Ritwik Ghatak, 1974)
« Respuesta #4 en: 14 Enero, 2007, 17:30:27 »
This is one of the greatest film of all time...not only of bengalese cinematography...
well done kim!!!!  :punk:

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Re: Reason, Debate and a Story [Ritwik Ghatak, 1974]
« Respuesta #5 en: 20 Enero, 2009, 18:12:41 »
Haciendo caso de Holleymartins, empezaré a bajar cosas de este director, del que sólo he visto una película.

Así que empezaré por su última película, ¡qué paradoja!

Saludos.

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Re: Reason, Debate and a Story [Ritwik Ghatak, 1974]
« Respuesta #6 en: 18 Febrero, 2009, 17:23:13 »
Dear kimkiduk,
I'm trying to download this movie since 3 weeks, with my PC on day and night.
And so far I did not get in more than a 30%...  :...:
Could you or anybody else help with making the source available and eventually with a friend slot on emule? Thanks a lot. Any help will be appreciated to finally have this fantastic movie in.  :punk:

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Re: Reason, Debate and a Story [Ritwik Ghatak, 1974]
« Respuesta #7 en: 21 Febrero, 2009, 07:17:31 »
Gran regalo, si señor. Ghatak es junto a S.Ray y Guru Dutt el máS GRANDE CINEASTA QUE HA DADO LA iNDIA. Por ello el agradecimiento es enorme. Y una pregunta ¿serían posibles subtítulos en castellano para lo que presumiblemente es un film fundamental?. Si es así la fiesta sería cpmpleta. OK :punk:

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Re: Reason, Debate and a Story [Ritwik Ghatak, 1974]
« Respuesta #8 en: 22 Febrero, 2009, 10:50:01 »
holleymartins wrote: "for us (AllZine), the thing is to have the possibility to download the film. we don't care about time, for us it is more important to have it availabe."

well, I am not sure if I really would call this "availability"...
After 22.5 days online 24 by 7 (day and night), I reached 41%... HELP   :((  :...:
who could offer a friend slot to get this movie in?
_o00o_<ô(_)ô>_o00o_

update: after 29 days, i.e. 696 hours online, I reached now 50%.
Thanks for every bit and byte provided! Hopefully the second half of the movie will do it faster.

UPDATE: I GOT IT! FOUR WEEKS, THREE DAYS, 9 HOURS AND 27 MINUTES!
THANKS TO ALL (FEW) THAT HELPED WITH SOME BITS AND BYTES TO GET THIS MOVIE IN!

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Re: Reason, Debate and a Story [Ritwik Ghatak, 1974]
« Respuesta #9 en: 28 Marzo, 2009, 15:06:37 »
Bueno chicos. He terminado los subtítulos al castellano de esta película. Se los envío ipso facto al amigo Holley para que suba la pertinente ficha.

Un saludo.

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Re: Reason, Debate and a Story [Ritwik Ghatak, 1974]
« Respuesta #10 en: 28 Marzo, 2009, 15:16:50 »
Bueno chicos. He terminado los subtítulos al castellano de esta película. Se los envío ipso facto al amigo Holley para que suba la pertinente ficha.

Un saludo.

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Re: Reason, Debate and a Story (Ritwik Ghatak, 1974)
« Respuesta #11 en: 28 Marzo, 2009, 15:52:51 »
Ya están subidos los subtítulos en español, cortesía de aparajito  OK .


well, I am not sure if I really would call this "availability"...

[...]

UPDATE: I GOT IT! FOUR WEEKS, THREE DAYS, 9 HOURS AND 27 MINUTES!

So, it really was available. Enjoy the film  ;) .

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Re: Reason, Debate and a Story (Ritwik Ghatak, 1974)
« Respuesta #12 en: 29 Marzo, 2009, 21:46:29 »
Aprovecho la circunstancia  para bajarla y agradecer a aparajito la traducción. OK
El cine no es más que la interpretación de nuestras vivencias  las que serán o las que hubieran podido ser.

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Re:Reason, Debate and a Story (Ritwik Ghatak, 1974)
« Respuesta #13 en: 30 Mayo, 2012, 18:48:31 »
Me llevo otra de Ghatak, aprovechando que todavía hay (pocas) fuentes.
Muchas gracias kimkiduk (y también a Zenkoan, Jacob y aparajito).

Saúdos.

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Reason, Debate and a Story (Ritwik Ghatak, 1974)
« Respuesta #14 en: 30 Diciembre, 2016, 08:32:11 »
Muchas gracias kimkiduk, holleymartins y aparajito por acercarnos a esta película. Particularmente no me ha gustado, la desintegración que muestra, si bien pudiera extrapolarse, posee una fuerte focalización de contenido político regional, y en definitiva la historia que mantiene no me ha despertado interés.